Better organization within a playlist
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Philip Floetotto
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We are super excited to finally push out sections. It'll make it so much easier to organize your reviews. Once you tried it, please let us know how it feels.
And here is the support article:
https://support.syncsketch.com/hc/en-us/articles/26171845390733-Grouping-Media-Items-using-Review-Sections
Cheers,
Phil
Philip Floetotto
Hi all, we have been working hard on improving organization within reviews, and are aiming to release a first iteration in the coming weeks. Even though it is still work in progress, we would love to share a bit more and get your input.
Currently we support one level of grouping to easily structure your review by artist, shot, discipline, etc. You can collapse, expand and easily focus on groups (ctrl+click). It feels really good.
I know many of you have been asking for nested folders. And many of you are using reviews like folders. We are hoping to get to folders to enable an arbitrary folder structure eventually. Reviews for us are a snapshot of items in time that you can refer back to later, like last week we looked at "x". Having an arbitrary structure could confuse people and reviewers might "miss" items they are supposed to review.
Before we release we are looking for more user input. If you are curious, please reach out to us and we can organize a session to showcase and discuss this feature.
In the meantime, I've attached a couple of files to give you a better idea of what we are building.
PS: Currently we call a set of items a "section" as "group" might be an overloaded term. But what do you think is more intuitive - group or section?
Thanks,
Phil
Matthew Muntean
Philip Floetotto:
Right now I'm actually trying to work with this exact problem by creating 'slates' that go in front of X number of clips and infer they are related. The sections you show above would immediately help with that. The problem with slates is that it is tedious creating text. And reordering means you manually select all contents.
However if I'm interested in what 'Artist A' has been up to, can i search and get a list of all sections across all reviews? I like keeping playlists themselves fairly simple for some of the reasons you state above. Similar to EDLS, they don't need to be nested. but we need more ways of tagging the individual clips.
i.e. if we have 20 review playlists a week and in each one there are maybe 2 model uploads, to search for and just find the 'model' sections, some search would be nice to pull those out. But that may veer off into a general per-clip tagging /meta data search request.
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Chloé Gervais
Philip Floetotto: Would love to be part of a showcase to discuss this new exciting feature :) And section seems like a good term to me.
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Kevin Mannens
Philip Floetotto: It's good to hear that you guys are working on this. Thank you. My thoughts:
"Reviews for us are a snapshot of items in time that you can refer back to later, like last week we looked at "x""
--> Could this not be achieved with the search function, sorting by date, artist etc. and then create a new folder/section/review for those assets? Having nested folders does not prevent people from creating a top level folder for example named "dailies - 1/29/24". Production assistants would then copy the latest versions from the shot tree in that "dailies folder", or use the sections workflow you demo'd. In my experience, PA's organize dailies separately from shots. For example:
DAILIES
-MODELLING
--1/25
--1/26
--1/27
etc
" Having an arbitrary structure could confuse people and reviewers might "miss" items they are supposed to review."
--> Maybe I am missing something, but We feel it's more confusing to have hundreds of single level (not nested) review folders. Even a short film will have tens of thousands of assets to review. Having all those in a single list is unmanageable. Furthermore, even with nested folders, users can still choose to just have single level foder/reviews if they want?
I might be missing something, so please let me know. I am excited that you guys are working on this feature.
Rok Kogovšek
Philip Floetotto: Looks promising, we also wish to have a show case.
PS: I agree Section is less confusing than Group due to the Review Groups already existing. Alternatively calling it "(Sub)/Folder" may also work.
Philip Floetotto
Thank you so much for your responses. We'll reach out to you individually to schedule sessions as soon as possible.
Rok Kogovšek
Just noticed that I duplicated this request https://feedback.syncsketch.com/feature-requests/p/grouping-media-inside-review
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Morgan Mayhew
I would love nested folders, it's a nightmare for different disciplines when trying to organize by date.
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Kevin Mannens
Any news on this? Organizing a shot tree in SS is a nightmare without nested folders.
Philip Floetotto
Kevin Mannens: Hi Kevin. We are planning to introduce 1 level grouping of items in a playlist e.g by artist, sequence, shot, etc. in the near future. You could start off by grouping everything by artist automatically and then customize. The goal is to make it easier to quickly separate content in a playlist. But - we don't think an arbitrary structure within a review would be beneficial.
That being said, we are planning to introduce collections in the project view to allow you have an arbitrary nested structure for your movie.
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Kevin Mannens
Philip Floetotto: But - we don't think an arbitrary structure within a review would be beneficial. --> why is that? How would you organize things like
assets
-modelling
--charactername
-lookdev
--assetname
or
shots
-shot100
--fx
--lighting
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Kevin Mannens
+1 The ability to create subfolders in playlists/reviews is absolutely critical. frame.io has had this for years.
For example: In production, I need to be able to create a playlist for each sequence, then shot and then each discipline:
SEQUENCENAME
+SHOTNAME
++MODEL
++ANIM
++RIG
ETC
Cameron Target
This is huge... We need this!
Matthew Muntean
This might be a similar thing; if we could use tags or metadata per-item, that could potentially be used to group within a playlist as well as help searching outside of a playlist.
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Floating Rock
Hi there, is there any news on this feature being brought in?
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Kevin Mannens
Floating Rock: Your comment is almost a year old. ;-(, yet SS still has not addressed this absolutely essential features. Mind boggling.
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Meg Darcy
Bernhard Haux is there any update to this feature? I was about to make a request when I came along this ticket, and see that your team was hoping to release this year
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